>> if we get a deal, yes. i mean, wall street all along has been looking to avert the fiscal cliff. and frankly, i don't think ceos and businesses care a whole lot about where income tax rates fall. in fact, you saw a number of ceos come out a few weeks ago and say they were happy for their taxes to rise, so long as washington could get a deal. i think they also expected a deal. and then over the last five days, as the talks seemed to fall apart, you saw the markets fall. i think that turned around last night with word that vice president biden and mitch mcconnell would be negotiating overnight. mid-afternoon yesterday, dow futures were way, way down. it was going to be an ugly day on the markets, and that turned around and now they're looking positive this morning. so, i think the markets are optimistic about a deal, finally. >> and josh, fair to say most economists believe that if we do go over the cliff, it's fairly calamitous for the economy. >> well, it is calamitous for the economy in the long term. i think in the short term, it gives a real blow to consumer confidence. and we